Vimshottari from Lagna vs Moon — Tribhagi & TP Dashas

Vimshottari Dasha — Lagna vs. Moon vs. Sun

Two Doors

• Lagna is not only the body. It is the entire existence, and it is that through which you act in the world — the door from the interior to the world. It is also the seat of intelligence and its application.
• Moon is the mind, that through which you react to the world and experience it — the door from the world to the interior.

Which to Use — Lagna or Moon?

1. Count the planets in kendras from Moon.
2. Count the planets in kendras from Lagna.
3. The one with more planets dominates. Use the Vimshottari computed from it.

In this chart PVNR's software reports 3 planets in kendras from Moon and 5 from Lagna. Lagna is stronger.

What a Stronger Lagna Says About the Person

• Actions matter more to him than reactions. He is individualistic and independent, with a strong personality, and does not care much what the world thinks.
• For such a person Lagna Vimshottari is the more meaningful dasha.
• If Moon is the stronger one, the person thinks more about what others think of him.
• Either dasha can still be read for its own purpose: Moon Vimshottari for feelings, Lagna Vimshottari for actions.

Reading the Moon Vimshottari Here

• A student asks about the Mercury dasha, 1989–2006.
• Mercury is the lens through which he sees the world in those years. Mercury is the 9th lord and the 6th lord (service) and sits in the 6th with Ketu, the mokṣa kāraka.
• So his thoughts are on his dharma. Moon is also attachment: he is very attached to his dharma.

Sun-Based Vimshottari

• It would show what the soul goes through. But the soul sits in an opaque shell; we are unaware of its experiences, so the dasha has no meaning for us. It may have meaning for one who has had ātma darśana.
• It is used only in Ādhāna chakras — charts cast for the moment of conception. The dashas are compressed into the nine months to see what happens to the soul in that time.

Other Seeds

• From other planets: there are theories, but no basis in the śāstra.
• From a Sahama: an interesting thought, but no basis.
• The classics give a basis for Moon, Sun, Lagna, the special stars counted from Moon (Kṣema, Ādhāna, Utpanna tārā), the longitude of Māndi, and Trisphuṭa (in Praśna Mārga).
• Since Trisphuṭa is allowed, other points may work too — but how to judge them needs research; the śāstras give no clear guidelines.

"Moon is reaction, Lagna is action."

Tribhagi Vimshottari Dasha

Ordinary Vimshottari Covers Only 120°

• Moon is in Dhanishta, 4th quarter, so Mars dasha ran at birth. Then Rahu (Shatabhishak), Jupiter (Purva Bhadrapada), and so on.
• Nine dashas cover nine stars — 120° of the zodiac in 120 years.
• Each planet owns three stars 120° apart, so each dasha gives the results of three nakshatras: Mars dasha gives Dhanishta, and also Mrigashira and Chitra.

Tribhagi = Three-Parted

• 27 dashas instead of 9. Each planet's dasha comes three times, each time for a different one of its nakshatras.
• Each period is one third of the normal length: Mars 7 years → 2 years 4 months; Venus 20 years → 6 years 8 months.
• It progresses through the whole 360°: the full zodiac mapped onto the 120 years of a full life (paramāyus).
• Here the first Mars dasha is Dhanishta; the Mars dasha of the second cycle is Mrigashira.

Sahamas

• A Sahama is a significant point in the zodiac, one for each matter of life: Puṇya (fortune, good deeds), Vidyā (learning), Yaśas (fame), Mitra (friends), Māhātmya (greatness), Bandhana (imprisonment), Rāja (kingdom), Vivāha (marriage).
• That point, the planets on it and the star it falls in all matter for timing the event.

Use of Tribhagi — Activating a Sahama

• A student asks whether Vimshottari can be started from a Sahama instead of Moon. PVNR does not know of that. What can be done: watch when the Tribhagi Vimshottari reaches each Sahama.
• When the progression reaches the point holding Bandhana Sahama, imprisonment is possible; Rāja Sahama, kingdom; Vivāha Sahama, marriage.

Worked Example: Bandhana Sahama

• Bandhana Sahama is at 19°13'–19°14' Leo, in Purva Phalguni (13°20'–26°40' Leo). The second quarter ends at 20°, so the point is just before the middle of the star.
• Venus rules Purva Phalguni. The Venus dasha of the second cycle is the Purva Phalguni dasha — the progressed mind is stationed in that star.
• That dasha runs July 30, 2001 – March 27, 2008 (6 years 8 months).
• Half of it is 3 years 4 months: the middle of the star falls on November 30, 2004.
• The Sahama is a little before the middle → September–November 2004 is when its result is possible.
• He was arrested in the second week of November 2004.

Caveat

• This factor alone does not imprison anybody. It happens when several factors come together.
• If Tribhagi Vimshottari touches Bandhana Sahama in your own chart, do not be scared — but do not take part in anything risky at that time.

"When the Tribhagi Vimshottari Dasha progresses through the entire 360 degrees of the zodiac and comes to that particular point which contains Bandhana Sahama, there may be imprisonment."

Panchanga Elements

A student asks why the annual chart uses a dasha ruled by Venus and Ketu. PVNR's answer is the tattva of the tithi.

• Pañcāṅga = five limbs. They are five divisions of time, and each shows a quality of the time.

• The Tithi Praveśa chart is built on the tithi, and tithi is of jala tattva. So Venus is the most important planet for it.
• Ashtottari Dasha is ruled by Venus, and secondarily Ketu. That is why Tithi Ashtottari, not Vimshottari, goes with this chart.

TP Chart Dasha — Tithi Ashtottari and the Three Antardasha Styles

The Dasha Made for the Chart

• With a Tithi Praveśa (annual lunar return) chart, use Tithi Ashtottari Dasha. It is tailor-made for that chart and takes precedence over Vimshottari within it.
• With the Tājaka (solar return) chart, the tailor-made dasha is Paṭyāyinī Dasha.

Three Ways of Ordering Antardashas

Take the dashas in order as 1, 2, 3 … 9 and look inside dasha 1:

1. Jupiter style — Vimshottari and many other dashas: antardashas run 1, 2, 3, 4 … The dasha lord's own antardasha comes first.
2. Venus/Ketu style — Ashtottari: antardashas start from the next planet, 2, 3, 4 …, and come back to 1. The dasha lord's own antardasha comes last.
3. Rahu style — Shodashottari: fully reversed, 9, 8, 7 … 1.

Natal Chart vs. Annual Chart

• A student asks what happens when the natal dasha is of a benefic and the annual dasha of a malefic.
• The natal chart takes precedence. The annual chart shows what happens in that year only if the natal chart has the promise.
• The use of the annual chart is timing. Vimshottari may say trouble comes in a three-year span; the TP charts of those years, with Tithi Ashtottari, show when.

Hora Lord — Ruler of the Year

• The Hora Lord of the TP chart is the ruler of the year, like the king. Whenever he gets a chance he pushes his agenda.
• He can push it more in his own dasha than in his antardasha inside another planet's dasha.
• If another planet joined with him could have given the same result, the Hora Lord gives it himself.
• Any yoga the Hora Lord takes part in gives its result too. Something important happens in his dasha.
• The TP year is a personal calendar. It is not 2004–2005 by the common calendar: this one began on August 3, 2004 and runs to the tithi return of August 2005.
• Hora Lord is not Hora Lagna. Hora Lagna is about money and is not what is meant here.