BPHS Ch.16 Verses 13–17 — Child of Questionable Parentage, Raising Others' Children, Fortune Through Children & Ill-Behaved Child
Five verses of the 5th-house chapter, read word by word. Verse 13 gives a daughter when the 5th lord is with Moon or in Cancer drekkana; PVNR suspects the verse, because a daughter belongs to the Saptamsa, not the Drekkana. Verse 14 (5th lord in a movable sign, Rahu with "vidhu", Saturn in the 5th) gives a child born to someone else: Santhanam reads Rahu with Moon, PVNR reads Rahu in the 9th, and Saturn here is depletion, not necessarily adultery. Verse 15 needs Moon in the 8th, Jupiter in the 3rd and Jupiter afflicted by functional malefics, all three together. Verse 16 gives fortune in children when the 5th lord is exalted or in the 1st, 2nd, 5th or 9th with Jupiter's conjunction or aspect. Verse 17 gives an ill-behaved child when three or four malefics hold the 5th with no benefic and the 5th lord is debilitated.
Key principle
Irrespective of where Moon is, if Jupiter is in the 3rd house afflicted by malefics, that itself is a bad indication as far as children are concerned.
BPHS — Panchamabhava Phaladhyaya (Verses 13–17)
Verse 13: 5th Lord with Moon or in "That" Drekkana → A Daughter
- The 5th lord is with Moon, or he is in "that drekkana" (tad-drekkana).
- The verse does not say plainly which drekkana. PVNR reads it as Moon's own drekkana: the 5th lord occupying Cancer in the Drekkana chart. He does not read it as "the drekkana occupied by Moon".
- Result: kanyakotpatti — a girl is born.
A student asked why D-3 is used here at all. PVNR had no answer: Parasara himself assigns siblings to the Drekkana and children to the Saptamsa, so a daughter should be judged from D-7.
"It has to be from Saptamsa rather than Drekkana. That is why I am actually suspicious of this verse. There could be one or two verses here and there which were added by somebody."
- The 5th lord in a Cancer drekkana is not enough by itself to give a daughter. Take the verse with a pinch of salt.
Verse 14: 5th Lord in a Movable Sign, Rahu with "Vidhu", Saturn in the 5th → A Child Born to Someone Else
The verse: sutese chara-rasi-sthe, rahuna sahite vidhau, putra-sthanam gate mande, para-jatam vadet sisum.
Conditions:
- The 5th lord is in a movable sign (Aries, Cancer, Libra, Capricorn). This part is unambiguous.
- Rahuna sahite vidhau — "vidhu/vidhi is with Rahu".
- Saturn is in the 5th house.
Two readings of the second condition
- Santhanam translates it as Rahu with Moon.
- PVNR doubts this. One meaning of vidhi is fate, destiny. Unless the dictionary confirms the word as a name of Moon, look for what shows fate: the lagna (root of one's fate) or the 9th house (bhagya). The topic is children, where the 5th and 9th matter more than lagna. His guess: Rahu in the 9th house, aspecting the 5th.
Result: para-jatam sisum — Santhanam says "a child of questionable birth". Literally: the child the person gets is born to someone else. It can be:
- an adoption (dattaputra yoga);
- a child of the spouse by another person;
- raising a co-wife's child, or a stepmother raising the child of a wife who died.
Which condition carries the weight
- The 5th lord in a movable sign shows some change or transition about children. It is a very minor condition and nowhere near sufficient.
- The major conditions are the influence of Saturn and Rahu on the 5th house.
- The chart can be the husband's or the wife's. In an adoption it does not matter which.
A student's question: does Saturn here mean adultery?
- A student took verse 14 as an affair and verse 15 as plain adoption, "because only with Saturn comes the adultery".
- PVNR: not necessarily. This is the 5th house, not the 7th. Saturn is not only the planet of adultery. He is the planet of depletion — lean, drying, denying. In the 5th he can simply deny a child, so that one has to take someone else's. Saturn is also an important karaka for adoption and for raising another's child.
- Adultery is one possibility in both verses, not the only one. The two verses need not describe different things: in one Saturn afflicts the 5th house, in the other the karaka Jupiter is in marana karaka sthana and afflicted — and Saturn or Rahu can be among the afflicting malefics.
Why only children?
- A student asked why every verse is about children. PVNR: Parasara gives only some important matters of each house, as in earlier chapters. People come about children for the 5th and about marriage for the 7th.
- Use these verses as a base for the other matters of the house. Fame and following are also the 5th and resemble children: followers and fans follow you and learn from you as children do.
Verse 15: Moon in the 8th, Jupiter in the 8th from Moon, Afflicted by Malefics → Raising Another's Child
The verse: lagnad ashtamage chandre, chandrad ashtamage gurau, papagrahair yute drishte, para-jato na samsayah.
Conditions — all three together ("it is 'and', it is not 'or'"):
- Moon in the 8th house from lagna.
- Jupiter in the 8th from Moon, that is, in the 3rd house.
- Jupiter conjoined or aspected by malefics.
- Both planets are then in marana karaka sthana: Moon in the 8th, Jupiter in the 3rd.
- Yute drishte is in the singular, so the affliction is of one planet only. Jupiter was named last, so it applies to Jupiter. A student added that Jupiter is the putra karaka, which makes this reading the logical one. PVNR agreed.
- The malefics are functional malefics: the verse says papa, not krura.
"Irrespective of where Moon is, if Jupiter is in the 3rd house afflicted by malefics, that itself is a bad indication as far as children are concerned."
Result: para-jata — the native cannot beget children and has to raise somebody else's.
Verse 16: 5th Lord Exalted, or in Lagna / 2nd / 5th / 9th, with Jupiter → Fortunate in Children
The verse: putra-sthanadhipe svocche, lagnad va dvi-trikonage, guruna samyute drishte, putra-bhagyam upaiti sah.
- The 5th lord is exalted, or (va) he is in the lagna, the 2nd, the 5th or the 9th house. Dvi-trikona is "the 2nd or the trines", not the trines alone. Both may hold; one is enough.
- And he is conjoined or aspected by Jupiter.
Result: putra-bhagya — the native is fortunate in respect of children.
- After two bad combinations Parasara gives a good one.
- An exalted 5th lord is not rare. The only extra condition is Jupiter's conjunction or aspect, so this yoga does turn up in charts.
Verse 17: Three or Four Malefics in the 5th, No Benefic, 5th Lord Debilitated → A Child of Bad Character
Conditions:
- Three or four functional malefics occupy the 5th house.
- No natural benefic is in the 5th with them.
- The 5th lord is debilitated.
A correction to the printed text
- The printed words read as though a benefic is present, which cannot go with a bad result. PVNR takes it as a misprint for saumya-vivarjite — "devoid of benefics". A second misprint sits in the word for the result.
What "no benefic" implies
- The house must hold "just a gang of bad guys". If one of the three or four functional malefics is a natural benefic, the yoga does not form. So all of them must be natural malefics as well as functional malefics.
- Example: Virgo lagna with Saturn, Rahu and Mars in the 5th (Capricorn). Mars is 3rd and 8th lord — malefic. Saturn is 5th and 6th lord — between neutral and malefic. Rahu is 6th lord — malefic. The yoga's first condition is met even though Mars is exalted there; the verse is not about exaltation or debility of the occupants.
Result: the child has bad character and keeps bad company. He is ill-behaved and the parents suffer.
"If there are malefics afflicting the 5th house, it could either be not getting a child, having to adopt, etc. On the other hand, it could also be having a child who is problematic."
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