Tithi Pravesha Mechanics, Border Chart Rule & Owning vs Occupying

Q&A — Tithi Pravesha Mechanics

Question: When Paka and Bhoga Fall in the Same House

• A student asks whether Paka and Bhoga can be the same house, and whether a special rule applies.
• It can happen — when the dasha lord and the antardasha lord are in the same house.
• No special rule. Paka shows where the effort goes. Bhoga shows what is experienced, what is got.
• If they are the same house, the effort goes into the same thing from which the results come.

Question: Does the Tithi Pravesha Nakshatra Match the Birth Nakshatra?

• It need not. Only the tithi and the solar month repeat.
• The only criterion: Sun is in the same sign as at birth, and Moon is at exactly the same distance from Sun as at birth.
• Example given: Sun at 5° Pisces at birth. This year the birth tithi returns with Sun at 25° Pisces. Sun is 20° ahead, so Moon is also 20° ahead of his natal place — about two nakshatras away.
• The limit: Sun can be at most 30° off. 30° ÷ 13⅓° is two and a fraction, so 3 nakshatras at most, plus or minus.
• More than that is a bug in the software. Birth nakshatra Hasta and Tithi Pravesha nakshatra Rohini is a bug.

Question: When the Tithi Comes Twice in the Sign (Adhika Masa)

• Once every few years the same tithi comes when Sun is at the beginning of the sign and again when he is at the end of it. Which is the birthday?

"What we do in tradition is we take the second one."

• He adds that it is open to research.
• A person born in an adhika masa: the teacher says this is tricky and that he has no settled view, because he has not worked much with such charts. What his guru told him: it does not matter whether birth was in the nija masa or the adhika masa. Tithi Pravesha is that tithi when Sun is in that sign. It comes every year — there is no waiting several years, as with a 29 February birthday.

Question: Does the Nakshatra Lord Matter?

• The chart on the screen is of the moment of the class: Sun in Capricorn, Moon in Sagittarius in Purvashadha, Krishna Trayodashi with 75% of the tithi left. The planet in brackets after the nakshatra is the lord of that nakshatra under Vimshottari — Venus for Purvashadha.
• The student asks whether this has anything to do with the Atmakaraka. No. They are totally different things.
• The nakshatra lord does matter. Someone born at that moment runs Moon dasha from 2019 to 2029. Moon is in a nakshatra of Venus, so Moon is under the influence of Venus. Who Venus is in that chart — his role, his agenda — has a part in deciding what Moon gives.
• Nothing has been taught on the nakshatra dispositor so far. "We don't care about it right now, but it is important. We will do it slowly."

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Border Chart Rule

Before reading any chart, see how much leeway the lagna has on both sides.

• A birth time is never a point. It is a window.

"You never know the point of time. You only have a window."

• The question to ask of a rectified time: how confident were we? That it could not be 2 seconds earlier, or that it could not be 2 minutes earlier?
• If a lagna is so close to the border that a few seconds change it, consider the other lagna also.

The two cases in this class

• First chart, 2004 Tithi Pravesha D-10: 8 minutes of leeway on one side and 4 minutes 45 seconds on the other. Safe, unless the birth time is totally off.
• First chart, Capricorn dasha entry chart: about 1 hour 45 minutes of leeway. Not on a border.
• Second chart, 2004 Tithi Pravesha rasi chart: the lagna is at the very end of Leo. 21 seconds later it is Virgo. In the natal chart the same native has 1½ hours on one side and 36 minutes on the other.

"Just because the lagna in the natal Rasi chart is in the middle of a sign doesn't mean it will be in the middle of a sign every year. In one particular year, it may be on a border. So you have to look at the leeway you have on both the sides every year in every divisional chart."

• The teacher at first refuses to read the second chart: he will not put the confidence of the class on a time that 21 seconds can overturn. The class asks him to assume the time is right and try. If the reading fails, the time is wrong and the native must rectify again.
• The reading fits. He then checks what Virgo would change: the D-10 lagna stays the same. Only the rasi chart differs.

Hora Lagna and Ghatika Lagna in divisional charts

• In the first chart's Tithi Pravesha D-10, the Ghatika Lagna is with Mercury. Planets with the Ghatika Lagna give position, authority and power.
• But the Ghatika Lagna moves so fast that its sign in a divisional chart turns over in a couple of minutes. It may or may not be right.
• His advice: do not use Hora Lagna and Ghatika Lagna in the divisional charts. Use them only in the rasi chart.

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Owning vs Occupying a House — Fundamental Distinction

The teacher closes the class on this point. It runs through all three charts.

"A planet being in the 9th house and a planet owning the 9th house are not the same. They are different. They have different agendas, but there is some commonality. So if you understand the meaning of each factor, then you can make judicious judgments, and then you are more likely to make good predictions."

The Two Roles of a Planet

The houses a planet owns = his agenda.

• They are his responsibility. What he wants to give comes from them.
• "Even though I am sitting in this house, if something happens in my house, I am concerned about it. I will be making phone calls to fix the problem."

The house a planet occupies = his resources.

• He has no responsibility for it, but it is what he has access to and is allowed to affect. What he is capable of giving comes from it.
• "It's not my room. But I can alter it. I can move this table from here to there."

Three Uses in This Class

• Sahamas. A planet can give the results of a sahama close to him in the sign he occupies. He wants to give the results of the sahamas in the signs he owns.
• 10th lord in the 3rd. His agenda is work. What the 3rd lets him give is travel. So he uses travel for work.
• 9th lord in the 8th (the lady's chart, Capricorn antardasha). Saturn's agenda as 9th lord is to give fortune. He lives in the 8th, so that is what he has access to: he gives fortune through change and uncertainty. She went abroad for the first time, and the year was rough. Had Saturn been in the 9th itself, it would have been a very fortunate period without much instability or change.

"That is how you use the house owned by the planet and the house occupied by the planet. You mix both. They are not the same."

Do Not Pool the Factors

• The common way: she married, so list the 7th house, the 7th lord, planets aspecting the 7th lord, planets with the 7th lord, planets aspecting the 7th house. That makes one group of six planets. If the dasha and antardasha belong to any of them, the event is called explained.
• That is not judgment. Each factor has its own meaning. Keep them apart.

Stick to the Basics

• The one book on Narayana Dasha has hundreds of techniques. Use them all and some technique will explain any event — "because he is in a kendra from Darakaraka", "because he aspects the Upapada".

"You will always come up with good justification of every event, but that's useless when you want to make prediction."

• Keep to the few principles of the last few classes. More will come slowly. With many principles, the thing is to know the exact meaning of each. Otherwise you mix everything up — you can explain anything and predict nothing.

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