Bill Gates (Seattle 1955): Alternative AL 20°20' Sag → Venus+Exalted Saturn in 11th (Better than Standard); Graha Arudha Q&A: Parashara Only Defines A1-A12 + Planet Arudhas (NOT L9/L7 Arudhas); PVNR Meta-Commentary: Arudha = Signal with Noise, Not Complete White Noise
Bill Gates partial validation (Oct 28 1955, Seattle; Gemini lagna 26°22'): Standard AL = Virgo → 11th (Cancer) has ~3 aspects; alternative AL = 20°20' Sagittarius → 11th (20°20' Libra): Venus (lord of Libra + occupant) + Saturn exalted (occupant) + Moon half + Jupiter 3/4 ≈ 3.25 aspects — stronger qualitatively (lord of 11th + exalted planet in 11th) but not as overwhelming as Dhirubhai (6.5/8). Problem: A10 in 12th from Alternative AL (Rajapada in 12th = not ideal for kendra/kona rule). A9 (Bhagyapada) in 7th from AL. PVNR: "still something to reconcile; signal with noise, not perfect." Graha Arudha Q&A: "Parashara defines only two types of Arudhas — A1 through A12 (house Arudhas) and Arudha of each planet (Sun's Arudha, Moon's Arudha, etc.). He did NOT define 'L9 Arudha' or 'L7 Arudha' — those are student/teacher terminology." Correct approach: "If you want 9th lord's manifestation → take 9th lord as a planet and find its Graha Arudha." Stronger sign rule for dual-ownership: "both signs may show minor results but stronger sign dominates; PVNR not fully confident in edge cases." Narandas book technique (Sanjay Rath): Graha Arudha from a planet's two signs = shows influence of different lagna-types on you (where it falls from your lagna = fortune/tension/loss from people of that lagna type); "from Sanjay Rath's tradition, not Parashara directly." PVNR meta-commentary: "Most people use Arudhas AFTER already deciding something from other factors — not true prediction from Arudha alone. It is signal corrupted with white noise. Parashara uses anustup meter (simplest, most ancient = authentic). When I deeply understand a Parashara teaching and apply it, it works consistently. The full correct understanding of BPHS may emerge over the next 100 years." Practical guidance: "Use what you have confidence in. Gradually test alternatives. Don't look down on lesser knowledge — what you are proud of may not be that superior."
"I have not seen anybody — including myself — actually predict confidently from Arudha principles alone using the standard sign-based approach. It is not complete white noise. It is signal corrupted with a lot of white noise. Some cases work, some don't. The alternative longitude approach reduces the noise. But I am still experimenting. Parashara's full understanding may emerge over the next hundred years. We are in process."
— P.V.R. Narasimha Rao
Example Chart
Bill Gates — Alternative Approach (Partial Validation)
Birth data: October 28, 1955, 9:22 PM PST (8 hours west of GMT), Seattle WA (122°19'51"W, 47°36'23"N)
Lagna: Gemini 26°22'; Lagna lord Mercury at 23°21' Virgo; Moon in Pisces
Standard AL = Virgo:
- 11th from Virgo = Cancer: Saturn (full), Rahu (full), Moon (half), Venus+Sun (1/4 each) → ~3 aspects
- 12th from Virgo = Leo: Jupiter only (~1 + Rahu 1/4) → ~1.25 aspects
- 11th > 12th but margin not overwhelming for world's richest
Alternative AL calculation:
- Distance from Lagna (26°22' Gemini) to Mercury (23°21' Virgo): 90° minus 3°01' = 86°59'
- From Mercury (23°21' Virgo) + 86°59' = 23°21' Sagittarius minus 3°01' = 20°20' Sagittarius
- Is 20°20' Sag in 7th from Lagna? 7th house = 26°22' Sagittarius to 26°22' Capricorn; 20°20' Sag < 26°22' Sag → in 6th house, not 7th → no exception
- Alternative AL = 20°20' Sagittarius
11th from Alternative AL (20°20' Libra):
- Venus at ~26-27° Libra: occupies 11th (Venus = lord of Libra = lord of 11th from Sagittarius)
- Saturn at ~28° Libra: occupies 11th, exalted
- Moon: half aspect (8th house aspect from Pisces)
- Jupiter: 3/4 aspect (4th house aspect)
- Total: Venus (1) + Saturn exalted (1) + Moon (0.5) + Jupiter (0.75) ≈ 3.25 aspects
- Much better than standard (3 aspects), and the lord of 11th + exalted planet in 11th is qualitatively strong
- But not as overwhelming as Dhirubhai's 6.5/8
A10 from Alternative AL (approximately):
- 10th cusp at 26°22' Pisces; Jupiter (10th lord) at ~4° Leo
- A10 ≈ 14° Sagittarius; from AL (20°20' Sagittarius): 14° < 20°20° → falls in 12th house from AL
- Problem: A10 in 12th from AL is not ideal (Rajapada should be in kendra/kona)
A9 (Bhagyapada):
- 9th lord Saturn at ~28° Libra; calculation ≈ beginning of Cancer
- Cancer = 7th house from AL (Sagittarius) → A9 in 7th from AL = Bhagyapada well placed
PVNR's assessment: Alternative approach is better for Gates' chart than standard (stronger 11th from AL), but not as perfectly convincing as Dhirubhai Ambani. "Still something to reconcile. It is signal with some noise, not perfect."
Graha Arudha Q&A Clarifications
If a planet rules two signs, which one gives the Graha Arudha?
- Parashara: take the stronger sign (determined by: which sign has the exaltation point, more planets, or the lord's Rashi aspect)
- PVNR's take: both signs may show minor results, but the stronger sign dominates
- The weaker sign's Graha Arudha may exist but is secondary
- This area needs more fine-tuning; PVNR is not fully confident
Parashara's actual terminology:
— PVNR"Parashara defines: arudha of houses (A1–A12) and arudha of planets (Sun's arudha, Moon's arudha, Mercury's arudha, etc.). That is it. He did NOT define 'L9 arudha', 'L7 arudha' — those are student/teacher terminology, not Parashara's."
- If you want to see the "9th lord's manifestation" → take the 9th lord as a planet and find its Graha Arudha
- Example: Lagna = Capricorn, 9th house = Virgo, 9th lord = Mercury → find Mercury's Graha Arudha (may be from Gemini or Virgo per strength rule)
Using Graha Arudha to judge lagna-type influences:
- Reference: Sanjay Rath's "Narandas" book
- Jupiter-Sagittarius Arudha (from Sagittarius) = how a Sagittarius-lagna person's presence manifests and affects you
- Where that Graha Arudha falls from your lagna → tells you if Sagittarius-lagna people bring you fortune, tension, loss, etc.
- This technique is from Sanjay Rath's tradition, not from Parashara directly; may or may not be perfected knowledge
PVNR's Meta-Commentary on Arudha Research
On the state of knowledge:
— PVNR"Most of the time people use arudhas after they have already decided something from other factors, and then they say 'this planet is in A10 so career is good.' I have not seen anybody — including myself — actually predict confidently from arudha principles alone using the standard sign-based approach."
On imperfection vs uselessness:
— PVNR"It is not complete white noise. It is signal corrupted with a lot of white noise. You have seen cases where it works, and cases where it doesn't. We are trying to make it more perfect."
On Parashara's authenticity:
- Parashara uses anustup meter (simplest, most ancient) — Kalidas, Varahamihira, Kalyanavarman use complex meters. Ancient rishis used anustup; later authors deviated.
- When PVNR deeply understands a Parashara teaching and applies it, it works consistently. This is not true for things learned from other sources.
- BPHS is mostly authentic, mostly corruption-free. Its full correct understanding may emerge over the next 100 years.
On practical guidance:
— PVNR"Use what you have confidence in. As you experiment and gain confidence in better principles, gradually switch. Don't look down on those with lesser knowledge — what you are proud of may not be that superior to someone doing the 'parrot method.'"