AK = Sense of "I" (Vedantic Ego NOT English Ego); AmK = Sense of Purpose/Mission; 12th from AK in D20 = Ishta Devata; 6th from AmK in D10 = Purpose-Deity; D4 = Bhagya/Fortune (Parashara — NOT D9); D2 Alternative = Chart of Death/Transition (Sampada = "Falling")

Extension to Karakamsa

Verse: "Whatever yogas I have mentioned with respect to lagna and pada are also to be known from Karakamsa."

• Parashara jumps from Arudha pada to Karakamsa. Example: a benefic exalted in the 2nd from Karakamsa — the person will be rich.
• He says amsa — a divisional chart — but does not say which. Navamsa is one amsa; Karakamsa does not have to mean D9. The teacher suggests the divisional chart relevant to the matter.
• Pada and Karakamsa do not show the same thing. Pada = how you project yourself to the world. Atmakaraka = your sense of "I".
• Strong planets in the 2nd from Atmakaraka (Jupiter or Venus exalted) = the resources of the sense of "I" are strong. The person is likely wealthy — but not necessarily materially. He may be well endowed with knowledge or great qualities.
• "Maybe in D1, maybe in other divisions — you have to explore. Parashara never said this is with respect to D1."

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Atmakaraka and Amatyakaraka — Vedantic Meaning

The chara karakas are aspects of yourself. They may also stand for different people, but they are all in your consciousness.

Atmakaraka = The Sense of 'I'

• Parashara: Atmakaraka is the king; the other karakas are like the minister and the people of the country.
• Take the personality as a kingdom. Who calls the shots at the end? The ego.

"I don't mean ego in the sense of modern English language, like pride. I mean ego in the Vedanta sense. Basically your sense of self. 'This is I.'"

• Everyone has a notion "this is who I am": this body; this person who must look after mother and father; this being born to take Vedanta to the West; "I am the king, everybody should listen to me".
• If there were no such sense of "I", you would not be born.

Amatyakaraka = The Sense of Purpose

• Amatya = minister. The teacher's opinion: Amatyakaraka is the sense "this is what I need to do — this is my mission".
• The sense of purpose guides the "I"-ness. It is the minister, not the king.
• This is why astrologers have taught that Amatyakaraka shows career.

12th from AK and 6th from AmK

• Parashara gives both as places from which to find the deity to worship.
• 12th from AK: the final purpose with respect to the "I" is to let it go. "I don't exist" — then nirvana, moksha. Hence the 12th.
• 6th from AmK: a mission has obstacles. The 6th is the house of obstacles to be overcome. Whoever you are, a rickshaw puller or a great saint, you are born with a purpose and God puts obstacles before it.
• While a sense of purpose is still burning, the ego will not die. Worship the deity of the 12th from AK all you like — the minister keeps telling the king "we have a lot to do", and the king will not retire.

"So first you have to control the minister, let the minister be happy."

• So the 6th from Amatyakaraka is even more fundamental than the 12th from Atmakaraka. Worship the deity shown there — perhaps in Dasamsa, the chart of karma — fulfil the mission, and then you are ready to overcome the ego.

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Divisional Chart Assignments — PVNR's Revised Position

"Now I am breaking off from that" — in the last few months the teacher has left the Navamsa reading of Karakamsa for these two points.

Why D20 for Ishta Devata:

• Take the 12th from Atmakaraka, the planets influencing it, and the standard rules. The deity that Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Vivekananda and many others worshipped and reached moksha through is not seen from the 12th from Karakamsa in Navamsa.
• With the same simple rules in Vimsamsa the correlation is much better.

"If you are taking the 12th from Atmakaraka, I suggest taking D20, not the Navamsa."

D60 — a research area

• Parashara says you see everything in D60.
• The lagna of D60 is questionable. The Atmakaraka's position is fine in most cases — reading houses from AK works even with birth data that is ten minutes off.
• The teacher is convinced D60 has much more than past life, and is not sure it shows past life the way the tradition says.
• K.N. Rao's rebirth cases: he collected charts of people who recalled a past life with details that were later checked on the ground. He had about sixteen; four are published in his book on rebirth, each with three charts — previous birth, previous death (within a couple of hours), present birth.
• Test: take the D60 of the new birth, allow some error in lagna, take Arudha Lagna as lagna, and compare with the rasi chart of the previous life. There are no correlations.
• So the parampara's rule — AL of D60 as the lagna of the previous life — is unverified. It may be a corruption of something else.
• It is easy to speculate ("Jupiter and Ketu in the 9th — you were a great saint") and there is no way to validate it.
• The one place the teacher found good correlations: the 3rd from Arudha Lagna in Shashtiamsa showing phobias. Readings were given to people and confirmed.

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Hora Chart (D2) — Alternative Interpretation

The teacher shares this as a thought he has not pursued — "I just want to think aloud."

Parashara's word for hora: sampad.

Two meanings:

1. Wealth, possessions, assets — the meaning in use today.
2. Falling — how the person falls. On the Sanskrit alone, hora can be read as showing the death of the person.

Supporting point:

• The two horas are owned by the Devas and the Pitris (Sun and Moon). After death one goes to Deva lokas or Pitri lokas — the same two.
• Compare Dasamsa, whose rulers Indra, Agni and the rest show the directions in life. Here the rulers may show the gati after death.
• Then the marakas Parashara defines may apply in the hora chart. Which hora chart, and how to cast it, is research still to be done.

Students' points:

• The 2nd house is itself a house of death. The teacher agrees.
• D7? Parashara never said D7 shows death.
• A student points out the successes with the Kashinatha hora for wealth. The teacher: yes, there were several successful examples; maybe that hora does show sampad, maybe another hora variation shows the fall. He is not denying it.

Conclusion: what the hora chart shows is not 100% certain. It may or may not be the right chart for wealth.

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D4 (Chaturthamsa) for Wealth — Novel Research Suggestion

Parashara's word for D4 (Turyamsa): bhagya — fortune.

• We have been seeing residence in D4. Parashara never specifically said residence. A good residence is a matter of fortune, but bhagya does not mean house alone.
• Money is fortune too. So can wealth be seen from D4? Is D2 the only chart for money? It is not clear.

"Parashara never said D9 shows fortune. Specifically, he said bhagya is shown in D4, and D9 shows, he said, wives."

• In another context the word dharma is used for D9. D9 shows dharma and wives. For fortune there is no classical sanction; we think so only because the 9th house is the house of fortune.
• We always look at rasi and hora for wealth. Rasi because it is physical existence — the body must be endowed with luxuries. D4 is also important, probably more than rasi. Combining D2 with D4 may give more clarity.

What to try:

• Charts of people who suddenly became rich or successful — Bill Gates, lottery winners. See if D4 shows it.
• Apply the verses of this class (7th and 2nd from the pada) in rasi and also in Chaturthamsa.
• Take Karakamsa in Chaturthamsa for fortune and wealth and see if it makes sense.

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Ishta Devata — No Harm in a Wrong Recommendation

• With rules like "12th from Atmakaraka = Ishta Devata" we may have given wrong recommendations. It does not hurt. Someone worshipping Durga instead of Hanuman has not wasted his time.

"If somebody is really ready for moksha in this life, he doesn't really need an astrologer to tell him."

• Ramakrishna: nobody told him to worship Kali. His brother took him to the temple where Rani Rashmoni had installed Kali, asked him to help, and he was drawn to her.
• Vivekananda: under Brahmo influence he took a formal vow never to worship idols. He quarrelled with Brahmananda — a Krishna worshipper who did sashtanga pranam before idols — and did not speak to him for months until Ramakrishna scolded him. Later he became a Kali worshipper. After Ramakrishna's passing Kali came to him as a little girl and stayed with him for the rest of his life, guiding him.
• A deity who comes, stays and guides — that is the Ishta Devata. In Vimsamsa, Vivekananda's Ishta Devata is Kali.
• When someone is meant to reach his deity, the deity comes to him.
• If you think that as a learned astrologer you must guide people correctly or they are doomed — "it is just your ego."
• The rules are more refined than five years ago and may still have errors. Hopefully the work ahead is refining, not tearing down.
• No validation exists either way. Nobody came back to say "I did the Durga mantra for a year and Durga appeared", and nobody came back to say "I wasted my time". Any deity worshipped with a pure, not so selfish mind takes you somewhere.

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