Birth Time Rectification & Narayana Dasha Introduction

Opening: Why Example Charts Matter

The first class after the SJC conference. PVNR spends the whole session on one student's chart.

• Theory is not enough. You may follow a concept at a high level, but once you apply it to a chart, doubts crop up.
• Try as many charts as you can: your own, parents, siblings, children, spouse.
• Bring the charts that confuse you to class. "Maybe if it doesn't make sense to me also, then I will say there is something here I don't understand."
• Make predictions. Be brave. But tell the person honestly: "I am learning, it may or may not be true, but this is what I think."

"Unless you make a lot of failed predictions, you will not become a good astrologer. I can say that with confidence. Unless you make a lot of failed predictions, you will not get your concepts right."

Strength of Planets: Brief Introduction

Said before the class proper began (the recording opens mid-sentence). Strengths are left for a later class. For now:

• There is not one strength. PVNR names several kinds of bala: Ṣaḍbala, Aṣṭakavarga bala, Sthāna bala, Kāla bala, and one more the recording garbles (probably Viṁśopaka bala).
• Which one to use depends on the purpose.
• His illustration: with many people on my side I can easily get a small thing like an apple even if my enemies object. For something bigger, the same enemies may make me the weaker one although more people are with me. Strength depends on what you are talking about.

Example Chart: Birth Time Rectification

The chart: a student in the class. Born February 25, 1963, 8:45 PM IST, in India. The time was remembered by his mother; he puts the error at 5 to 10 minutes. D-1 lagna: Virgo 19°53'.

Which Divisional Chart to Start With

• If the person asks a question, the question picks the chart. A career question means the Daśāṁśa must be right. A question about education ("will I finish my Masters? which subject suits me?") means D-24 must be right.
• If there is no question and you only want to rectify, find the divisional chart in which the lagna is close to a border. In some charts the lagna is safe for ten minutes. In some it changes within a minute.
• With a 20-minute window do not start with the finer charts. The Ṣaṣṭyāṁśa lagna changes about every 2 minutes; D-24 about every 4 minutes, so 5 different signs fall inside the window. "If you directly jump into it, you will sink."
• Start with the higher chart, then go to the lower one. "Lower" here means the bigger number: D-24 is lower than D-9. Even if the question is about education, first ask about marriage, abilities and career, fix those charts, then go to D-24.
• Only when the time is said to be accurate to a minute can you go straight to D-24 or finer.

D-10 (Dasamsha) Border Analysis

• Daśāṁśa lagna changes every 3° (30° / 10): at 3, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, 21…
• The rāśi lagna stays about 2 hours in a sign, so the Daśāṁśa lagna stays about 12 minutes (120 / 10).
• 19°53' is two-thirds of the way from 18° to 21°. So about 8 minutes earlier the D-10 lagna is Libra, about 4 minutes later it is Sagittarius. The software gives 7 min 43 s and 4 min 34 s.
• With a 5–10 minute error, all three D-10 lagnas are possible: Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius. The career has to decide. That is left for later.

D-9 (Navamsha) Border Analysis

• Navāṁśa changes every 3°20' (30° / 9): 3°20', 6°40', 10°, 13°20', 16°40', 20°, 23°20', 26°40', 30°.
• 19°53' is only 7' short of 20°. It is right on the margin.
• 28 seconds later the Navāṁśa lagna moves from Gemini to Cancer.
• 13 min 9 s earlier it would be Taurus. That is outside the stated error, so unlikely, though not ruled out.
• So the Navāṁśa lagna is Gemini or Cancer. Only two possibilities, so start here.

Narayana Dasha Introduction

The Marriage (May 2, 1997) in Vimshottari

Marriage came in Mercury mahādaśā (1980–1997), Saturn antardaśā (January 1995 – September 1997). The question: which Navāṁśa lagna explains Mercury–Saturn?

With Gemini Navāṁśa lagna (the given time):

• Mercury is lagna lord, in lagna in own sign with Jupiter. A lagna lord gives a new beginning; in Navāṁśa that can be marriage.
• Mercury is aspected by Venus (Venus is in Sagittarius, the 7th from him, so by graha dṛṣṭi and rāśi dṛṣṭi both) and sits in the 7th from Venus.
• Saturn is the 8th and 9th lord, placed in Cancer, the 2nd house, where the Upapada falls. Upapada is the formal marriage, so he can give it. But as 8th lord he is not a likely giver.

With Cancer Navāṁśa lagna (28 seconds later):

• Saturn becomes the 7th lord in lagna. His antardaśā is now much more likely to give marriage.
• Mercury is in the 12th. He still qualifies: he is with the 9th lord Jupiter and in the 7th from Venus.

So far Cancer is more likely, but Gemini is not ruled out.

Rules Taught Here

• See the 7th from Venus, not only the 7th from lagna. The planets occupying or owning the 7th from Venus are the ones who bring the spouse. Here they are Mercury and Jupiter.
• Be relaxed about the mahādaśā, strict about the antardaśā. You cannot say "the 7th lord is Jupiter, so marriage comes in Jupiter daśā"; that daśā may arrive at age 80. But every antardaśā has a fair chance of coming at a reasonable age, so the antardaśā lord must qualify strictly.
• Do not jump to a conclusion when something makes sense. Note it down: this is possible, this is more possible, this is less possible. Come back to it. To rule a possibility out you have to be very confident, and that needs several factors.

Vimshottari Dasha vs. Narayana Dasha

"Somebody may be getting married, but he may be feeling like he is walking into a prison. … So in that case, you may not see 7th lord, lagna lord involved. It may be the 12th lord for all we know. So the outlook of the person can be different from the reality."

• Other daśās apply to particular matters, e.g. Dṛg daśā (another rāśi daśā) for spiritual matters.
• An event happens because several daśās indicate the same thing. Use that convergence to confirm.

Narayana Dasha of the Navamsha

• In 1997 the Narayana daśā of Navāṁśa was Capricorn.
• From Gemini lagna: Capricorn is the 8th house and its lord Saturn is in the 2nd. Not likely to give marriage.
• From Cancer lagna: Capricorn is the 7th house, and its lord Saturn is in lagna. It gives marriage.
• The Narayana daśā sequence was taken as unchanged when the lagna was moved these few seconds; only the reading changes.

Conclusion: the Navāṁśa lagna is Cancer. The given time is wrong by at least 28 seconds.

Tithi Pravesha Check (1997)

A student asked why not use the Tithi Praveśa chart. PVNR's answer: it may not have the same border. Still, he checks it.

• Hora lord (ruler of the year) in 1997: Venus.
• In the Tithi Praveśa Navāṁśa Venus owns the 2nd house (family) and the 7th house (spouse) and is in lagna. The 7th lord in lagna strongly shows marriage in the year.
• Even if Venus were not the ruler of the year, she is the kāraka of marriage, the 7th lord, and in lagna. That alone is enough.
• Rule: the planet must have a good relationship with the ruler of the year, i.e. be in a trine or quadrant from him. The ruler of the year is like a king; whoever is on good terms with the king gets his matter done in the kingdom. Here Venus is the king himself.
• Timing within the year by the annual daśās is a separate matter, left aside.

Why it does not help rectification: in the 1997 Tithi Praveśa chart the Navāṁśa lagna changes only 9 minutes earlier or 4½ minutes later. It is not near a border, so it cannot tell 8:45:00 from 8:45:28. It only confirms that the chart is right.

Wrong Charts and Growing Faith in a Chart

• People often give a time they are not sure of. Some give a wrong chart on purpose.
• Politicians have two or three charts in circulation: Karunanidhi, Sonia Gandhi, Vajpayee (one chart for 1924, one for 1926; even the year is uncertain).
• The reason is old. A king's horoscope was kept secret, because a good astrologer could find when the king was vulnerable and tāntriks could be set on him at that time.
• The wrong chart is "professionally done": it fits the personality on a cursory look. If you accept it at face value, your predictions fail.
• Looking at the same event through several daśās, Tithi Praveśa and transits can expose a wrong chart as well as fix a right one. Each technique that agrees raises your faith in the chart, and "the more faith you have in the chart, the better your predictions will be."