The Four Elements of Any House — Deep Framework & Divisional Chart Selection

A house, its lord, the arudha of the house and the arudha of the lord show four different things. The house is inanimate and the lord animate; both are intangible, and their arudhas are the tangible side. With the 9th house: the house is the guidance received from father, the lord is the intelligence behind it, A9 is how the world sees the fathering, and L9 is the father as a person — so for real people use the arudha of the house lord. The page also covers which divisional chart shows a relative's accident (D-12 directly, D-6 indirectly, D-16 only if the native's own vehicle comfort is hit), why real matters mix several divisional charts, and the same four elements applied to friends.

Key principle

So 9th lord is the life force behind 9th house. 9th house is the guidance he is receiving from father. And if you take the arudhas of both, you see the tangible aspect.

The Four Elements of Any House — Deep Framework

The question came up while reading the father's accident: in D-12, do we see the father from the 9th house, the 9th lord, the arudha of the 9th house, or the arudha of the 9th lord? PVNR: "Don't tell me it is father, because we have all these four. Now we have to distinguish."

The Four Aspects

Two distinctions. House = inanimate, graha (the lord) = animate. House and lord themselves = intangible; the arudha of either = its tangible side.

ElementCategoryWhat it shows (9th house as the example)
9th houseInanimate, intangibleThe guidance received from father — the fathering, the parental environment, an influence on the native
9th lordAnimate, intangibleThe thinking and intelligence that go into that guidance. "The 9th lord is the life force behind the 9th house."
A9 (arudha of the 9th house)Inanimate, tangibleHow the fathering manifests so that the whole world can see it
L9 (graha arudha — arudha of the 9th lord)Animate, tangibleThe father as a person — the tangible manifestation of the intelligence behind the guidance
  • A9 examples from the class: people see that his father plays baseball with him every day; that his father takes him fishing every weekend and they have a close bond; that his father taught him mantras early and he became a Vedic scholar because of it. These are impressions people form from what they can see.
  • A father who has an accident is animate and tangible. So for "what happens to the father as a person" look at L9. In the software's standard view with graha arudhas, look for the point marked L9.
  • General rule given at the end of the class: "For people, real people, try to use the arudha of the lord of the house."

"So 9th lord is the life force behind 9th house. 9th house is the guidance he is receiving from father. And if you take the arudhas of both, you see the tangible aspect."

PVNR's caution on method: when the right definitions are used, some things may not make sense at first, because there is something else we do not yet know. Choosing whichever element gives a neat explanation is no way to learn. Use the four appropriately and understanding comes in steps.

(He mentioned that the four elements of a house would be taught in more depth by another teacher at the coming SJC workshop.)

Father in SC Dasha

  • The SC Dasha signs are progressed lagnas — progressed Lagna, progressed Chandra lagna, progressed Surya lagna. A sign is taken as lagna and the planets are read from it.
  • A student suggested reading the father from the sign holding the Sun. PVNR: no. Parashara says the father is seen from the 9th house from the Sun — still a house. For naisargika karakas you take the house counted from the karaka; only for chara karakas (and, as far as the recording can be made out, sthira karakas) is the karaka itself taken as the person.
  • So from whichever progressed lagna is used, the father is the 9th house from it.
  • In SC Dasha PVNR takes only the 9th house and lets it stand for A9, L9 and the 9th lord as well. Reasons he gave: this is a dasha based on houses, not a natal chart; he has not experimented with the other approach; and expecting a clean distinction between the four elements inside a dasha may be too much. "Instead of shooting in the dark, we can just take what is natural."

Which Divisional Chart to Use for Which Event

The students were asked which chart shows the father's accident. One said D-6, one said D-16.

ChartVerdict in class
D-12The chart for father and what happens to father. The direct one.
D-16Only if the event touches the native's own happiness from vehicles — he was in the car, or his own car went to the garage for a month because his father crashed it.
D-6Relevant, but indirect. The student's reasoning: D-6 shows the sources of suffering. PVNR agreed: Jaimini gives rules for seeing the diseases and suffering of father, mother, wife and children, and D-6 is used for the various relatives. A father's accident affects the native for days or years, so it shows in his rasi chart, D-6, D-30 and so on — "you basically share their suffering". Reading it there needs more expertise, so the class did not go there.

Physical events of a relative are read in the divisional chart

A student asked whether a physical injury should be read from the rasi chart.

  • The rasi chart is the physical existence of the native.
  • D-12 shows physical things relating to parents; D-7 shows what physically happens to a son or daughter.
  • What is physical for somebody else is an environment for you. "D-7 is the chart that controls my environment of children." An injury to a parent does not send you back to the rasi chart.

Real matters mix several charts

Later in the class PVNR came back to this: "We have been seeing things in black and white. Career — D-10. But in reality each thing will be a mixture of so many things."

  • A politician who got his career from his father (Naveen Patnaik, son of Biju Patnaik): D-10 and D-12. There will be a link between the two.
  • A man in business with his brother: strong links between D-3 and D-10.
  • A man whose wife is a working business partner, not one on paper: seen from the navamsa as well as the dasamsa.
  • Teaching is a mixture of learning (D-24) and work in society (D-10).

House, Lord, and Arudha for Any Topic — Friends and Cross-Chart Links

Friends have no divisional chart of their own

  • Siblings (D-3), parents (D-12) and children (D-7) are given by God's design at birth. Friends just happen. They come through various environments.
  • So read the 11th house in the chart of the environment: D-24 for friends from school and college (and from a Jyotish class — this is learning), D-10 for friends from the profession, D-20 for friends from a satsang.

The four elements for friends

  • 11th house: the friendship.
  • A11: how the friendship is viewed by the world.
  • 11th lord: the intelligence of the friends working towards the friendship — their thinking behind it.
  • L11 (arudha of the 11th lord): the actual, tangible, living friends.
  • Take L11 in the chart of the environment: L11 in D-24 shows the friends from the place of learning — class, school, college.

11th house and 7th house

A student asked whether the 7th house connects with this. Not necessarily.

  • 7th house: relationships and partnerships — people you deal with because you have to, in the course of pursuing your desires.
  • 11th house: friendship — people close to your heart. Not every relationship is a friendship.

Links to look for

  • Friend becomes a business partner: a link between the 11th and the 7th.
  • Wife becomes a business partner: a link between the 7th in dasamsa (partner) and the 7th in navamsa (wife).
  • Wife divorces and becomes an enemy: a link between the 7th in navamsa and the 6th in dasamsa.

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