BPHS Ch.24 — 8th Lord in Houses 7–9: Two Wives + Maraka for Native (7H), Long Life + Thief + Blame-Game (8H) & Adharmic + Atheist + Harsh Wife + Takes Others' Money (9H)
Parāśara's verses for the 8th lord in the 7th, 8th and 9th houses, each result derived by counting from the house concerned. In the 7th: two wives, because he is the wife's 2nd lord sitting in her lagna, and because the 8th lord brings change to the house he occupies; he is a māraka for the native too, and business suffers — certain only when a malefic is there. In the 8th: long life (medium even if the planet has no strength), a thief because the 8th is other people's money, blameworthy because the 8th is the 12th from the 9th, and one who blames others because he is the 2nd lord in the 2nd from the 7th. In the 9th: betrays dharma, atheist, takes others' money — and the "wicked wife" is read as a wife of harsh, aggressive speech, her 2nd lord being in her 3rd.
Key principle
Second lord of speech is in the third house of boldness and bravery. So the person may speak harshly, the person may speak aggressively. So he may not be talking about an evil person, but he may be talking about a harsh person.
BPHS Chapter 24 — 8th Lord in Houses 7–9 (Marriage, Longevity, Dharma)
8th Lord in 7th House
Verse result: two wives; loss in business; "if a malefic is there, it is certain"
Explanation:
- From the wife's side: count from the 7th house. The 8th lord is her 2nd lord, and he sits in her lagna. A māraka in her lagna can kill the first wife, so a second marriage becomes possible.
- From the native's side: the 8th lord damages the house he occupies and brings instability and change. In the 7th that means change in marriage — more than one wife.
- Both readings together give "a good chance of two wives".
- Māraka for the native too: the 8th lord in the 7th is a killer for the native. In that planet's daśā the native must be careful; there is some danger to his or her own life.
- Business: the 7th is interaction with others, dealing, business. The māraka sits in the lagna of that house, and from the native's side the 8th lord is there — trouble in dealing with others.
- The malefic clause: with a malefic there the result is sure. Without one it is only an indication and the native may get past it.
- It need not be both marriage and business. One may happen, and in some cases neither. Check daśāṁśa for business and navāṁśa for marriage.
8th Lord in 8th House
Verse result: long life (medium if the planet has no strength); thief (caura); blameworthy (nindya); one who blames others (anya-nindaka)
Explanation:
- Long life: the 8th is the house of longevity and its lord occupies it. Whether the planet is Saturn or Jupiter does not matter — it is a planet in its own house, so longevity is strong.
- Even if the planet has no strength at all, Parāśara says medium life, not short. So this placement is good for longevity — "not for other things".
- Caveat: if the 8th lord is with the 7th lord or 2nd lord and they are stronger, or there are afflictions, the same cannot be said.
- Thief: the 7th is other people; the 8th, 2nd from the 7th, is other people's money. That is why the 8th gives money without effort — lottery, inheritance. With its lord strong in it, the native puts other people's resources to his own use.
- Blameworthy: character and dharma are seen from the 9th. The 8th is the 12th from the 9th — loss of dharma. With that house strong, the native gives up or compromises his dharma. (The 12th is also giving, so it can instead show one who sacrifices for dharma; that is the other possibility.)
- Blames others: from the 7th house of interaction, this planet is the 2nd lord in the 2nd — a strong māraka for relations. It is hard for this person to keep good relations; others blame him and he fights with them.
- The 8th is also the seat of anger in the horoscope. Anger plus poor relations = fighting with people.
8th Lord in 9th House
Verse result: betrays dharma (dharma-drohī); no belief in God (nāstika); husband of a wicked wife (duṣṭa-bhāryā-pati); takes away other people's wealth (para-dravya-apahāraka)
Explanation:
- Dharma-drohī: seen from the 9th, the lord of the house that breaks it is sitting in it. "The one who is supposed to demolish the house — you tell him to construct the house; very unlikely that he will construct it."
- Nāstika: belief in God comes from the 9th. So the native can be not just irreligious and adharmic but an atheist.
- "Wicked" wife — the teacher calls this one "the googly":
- Duṣṭa is a generic word; its meaning depends on context.
- From the 7th house, this planet is the wife's 2nd lord in her 3rd house. The 2nd is speech; the 3rd is boldness, bravery, initiative, one of the houses of aggression.
- So her speech is harsh and aggressive; she asserts — "do this, do this". She talks a lot, boldly, with pride.
- He quotes a proverb: literally, if your mouth is bad the whole village is bad. Its meaning: if you have no control over your tongue, the whole town takes you for a bad person.
"So he may not be talking about an evil person, but he may be talking about a harsh person."
- Takes others' money: the 8th is other people's money. Its lord is in the 2nd from it — a māraka place for that money. Put another way, the 9th is the 3rd from the 7th: the 2nd from the 7th accumulates other people's money, and the 2nd from that breaks the accumulation.
- For the native this same house is the 9th, fortune. Other people's money is diverted to build his fortune — "taking away other people's money and building a big palace with it".
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