BPHS Ch.24 Complete — 2nd Lord in 10th (Scholar/No Children), 11th (All Gains/A2 in 5th = Wealthy Following) & 12th (Bold/Poverty/Jealousy)

The last three verses on the 2nd lord, each result traced to a house relationship. In the 10th: desires and many wives from the 4th-house argala on the 7th, the honour of a scholar because he is the 5th lord from the 10th sitting in the 10th, wealth, but trouble over children — the 10th is the 6th from the 5th and A2 falls in the 6th house, the 2nd from the 5th. In the 11th: all gains, always at work (argala on the 8th), honoured (argala on the 10th), famous (argala on lagna and aspect on the 5th), and A2 in the 5th, so that wealth draws a following. In the 12th: bold because he aspects the 6th, without money, the mind on other people’s fortune, and no comfort from the eldest child — the lord is 8th from the 5th and A2 falls in the 10th, the 6th from the 5th. The page also gives the teacher’s reason why the 12th house, the house of deprivation, is where jealousy is seen.

Key principle

All I want to say is jealousy is one facet of 12th house. 12th house is basically deprivation and not having something or losing something or giving up something.

BPHS Chapter 24 — 2nd Lord in the 10th, 11th and 12th (Verses 22–24)

The class opens on the last result of the previous verse (2nd lord in the 9th): the native goes on pilgrimages, visits shrines and does religious rituals. The 2nd is the house of resources; its lord in the 9th of dharma means the resources are spent on 9th-house matters — building temples, big rituals. "That is actually the least surprising of all the results he gave."

Verse 22 — 2nd Lord in the 10th House

Results Parāśara gives:

  • Kāmī — full of desires
  • Mānī — respected and honoured in society
  • Paṇḍitaḥ — a scholar, a learned person
  • Bahu-dāra-dhana-yuktaḥ — has many wives and much wealth
  • Kintu putra-sukhojjhitaḥ — but no happiness from children

Kāmī — why desires?

  • The students guess wrong houses first. The answer: the 10th is the 4th from the 7th, so a planet in the 10th has 4th-house argala on the 7th, the house of desire.
  • Count from the 7th as lagna: the 2nd lord is the 8th lord from the 7th, and he sits in the 4th from the 7th, the house of sukha — comfort from relationships.
  • He is in that house and he drives the 7th. He wants to give more relationships and more desires.
  • "He may give the person lot of desires, or he may give this person desire of a specific nature. There are several possibilities, but one possibility is there are lot of desires."
  • The same argala on the 7th is why he can give many wives.

Mānī — why respected?

  • The 2nd lord shows the wealth of the person; the 10th shows status and respect in society. He is respected as a wealthy, well-off person, "one of the cream of the society".

Paṇḍitaḥ — why a scholar?

  • Take the 10th house as lagna. The 2nd lord is the 5th lord from the 10th, and he is in that lagna. The 5th is scholarship.
  • "The honor he has in the society is that of a scholar."

No happiness from children — why?

  • A student answers first: A2 (the dhanārūḍha) falls in the 6th house. (2nd lord in the 10th is 9 houses from the 2nd; 9 houses from the 10th is the 6th.) The 6th is the 2nd from the 5th — a māraka place for children. The teacher accepts it but adds that this alone does not show having no children.
  • The other weakness: the 10th is the 6th from the 5th. As far as this planet goes, he shows obstacles in the matter of children.
  • He promises happiness in other things; for children he promises only overcoming problems. It can mean not having enough children and having to do a lot of karma for them — "get this homa done or go to the temple".
  • Caveat: before concluding there will be no children or unhappiness from them, look at the 5th house, its lord and Jupiter. "By itself, this is not promising good children. This is promising some problem with respect to children as far as this planet is concerned."

Verse 23 — 2nd Lord in the 11th House

Results Parāśara gives:

  • Sarva-lābha-samanvitaḥ — has all kinds of gains
  • Sadā udyoga-yutaḥ — always working hard
  • Mānī — honoured
  • Kīrtimān — famous

All kinds of gains:

  • The 11th is the house of gains, the 2nd the house of wealth. The wealth lord in the gains house: a wealthy, gainful person.

Always working hard:

  • Udyoga is work, not necessarily a job. "It doesn't mean he is always employed. Such a person may not even be employed. He may be in business."
  • A student says argala on the 6th. Wrong — the 11th has no argala on the 6th at all.
  • The answer: the 11th is the 4th from the 8th. The planet has the driving 4th-house argala on the 8th house of hard work.

Mānī and Kīrtimān:

  • The planet has argala on lagna (the 11th from it) — the name and fame of the person.
  • It has argala on the 10th (the 2nd from it) — honour and stature in society. Mānī comes from this.
  • Fame is seen from the 5th and from lagna. He has argala on lagna and he aspects the 5th house from the 11th.
  • "Having argala on all these, this planet can give wealth and give all these — still working hard, good name and fame, and good respect and stature in the society."

Where is A2 (the dhanārūḍha)?

  • The 2nd lord is in the 11th, the 10th from the 2nd. Take the 10th from the 11th: the 8th house.
  • An ārūḍha cannot fall in the house itself or the 7th from it, so not on the 2nd–8th axis. Take the 10th from the 8th: the 5th house.
  • A2 in the 5th house of fame and following: the person's wealth may create a huge following, many admirers.
  • "Like Warren Buffett — I don't know if he has this combination, but he definitely has lot of followers because of his wealth, because of his judgment."

Verse 24 — 2nd Lord in the 12th House

Verse: Dhaneśe vyaya-bhāva-sthe sāhasī dhana-varjitaḥ; para-bhāgya-ratas tasya jyeṣṭhāpatya-sukhaṁ na hi

Results Parāśara gives:

  • Sāhasī — bold, adventurous
  • Dhana-varjitaḥ — without money
  • Para-bhāgya-rataḥ — the mind is kept on other people's fortune; perhaps jealous
  • Jyeṣṭhāpatya-sukhaṁ na hi — no comfort from the eldest child. About the other children the verse says nothing either way, "but at least the elder child will give trouble".

Sāhasī — why bold?

  • A student gives the answer and the teacher praises it: from the 12th the planet aspects the 6th house of obstacles. He likes to play with obstacles, so he is a bit adventurous.

Dhana-varjitaḥ — why without money?

  • The lord of the house of money is in the 12th, the house of loss and giving up. "The things in the 12th house, you don't have them." So probably not a lot of money, and not a big family.

Para-bhāgya-rataḥ — why?

  • It can simply mean a jealous person, because the 12th is the house seen for jealousy. Not necessarily — the 12th shows many things, and jealousy is one of them.
  • Students offer the 5th (judgment falls; the 12th is the 8th from the 5th) and the 6th. The teacher: the 6th shows all the weaknesses in general, not jealousy specifically. Jealousy specifically is from the 12th.

Why the 12th House Shows Jealousy

  • The basic meaning of the 12th is letting something go. It shows deprivation, good or bad.
  • Mokṣa is also a deprivation — of the ego, of self-identification — and it too is seen from the 12th.
  • Losing a thing or giving it away, voluntarily or not, is the 12th. "I am going on the road and I leave my laptop somewhere and I lose it. It is 12th house."
  • The 12th is also simply not having something.
  • "Not having something is one thing. Not having something and looking at somebody who has it and feeling bad about it, that is jealousy."
  • He will not make it a general rule: "All I want to say is jealousy is one facet of 12th house."

"12th house is basically deprivation and not having something or losing something or giving up something. And jealousy is an aspect of not having something. Not everybody who does not have things has jealousy, but somebody who is deprived of something may look for it and feel jealous of somebody who has it. So 12th house is a clue to jealousy."

(From here the class goes into the Pāpapuruṣa and the Triṁśāṁśa — Part 2 — and then comes back to finish the verse.)

The Eldest Child

  • "When we are talking about the rāśi chart, we have no way to distinguish between elder child and younger child. So let's just say child." So look at the 5th house.
  • The 2nd lord in the 12th is in the 8th from the 5th.
  • A2 falls in the 10th house (the lord is 11 houses from the 2nd; 11 houses from the 12th is the 10th), which is the 6th from the 5th.
  • "Both the lord and the ārūḍha are in duḥsthāna from the 5th house. So there is some problem."
  • Why Parāśara says the eldest child in particular: "more specifically, I am not sure."

With this the 2nd lord is finished. Next class: the 3rd lord in the various houses.


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