BPHS Ch.24 — 4th Lord in Houses 7–9: Not Talkative (Maraka of 3rd), A4 in 12th = No Comforts, A4 in 2nd = Accumulates & 10th House = Indrasthana/Moha

Parāśara’s results for the 4th lord in the 7th, 8th and 9th, each derived by counting the placement from the house concerned. In the 7th: many kinds of knowledge (argala and a partial aspect on the 4th), gives up inheritance (9th lord from the 8th placed in the 12th from it), silent in an assembly (māraka of the 3rd). In the 8th: no household comforts (A4 falls in the 12th — or the comforts are abroad), little happiness from the father (a Viparīta Rāja Yoga counted from the 9th benefits the father, not the relationship), weak desires (10th lord from the 7th in its māraka-sthāna). In the 9th: liked by all (argala on the 11th), devout, principled, and an accumulator of comforts (6th from the 4th; A4 in the 2nd). The page ends with the teacher’s own deduction that houses 7–12 of the D-30 show the six enemies, the 10th — Indrasthāna — being the field of moha.

Key principle

If any Arudha is in the 12th house, the person may be devoid of that particular thing. But of course, it is also possible that he will have nice houses abroad, in a faraway place. Parasara is not giving all possibilities. He is just mentioning one possibility.

BPHS Chapter 24 — 4th Lord in the Seventh, Eighth and Ninth Houses

4th Lord in 7th House

Verse: sukheśe saptame jāto bahu-vidyā-samanvitaḥ; pitrārjita-dhana-tyāgī; sabhāyāṁ mūkavad bhavet

Results:

  • Bahu-vidyā-samanvitaḥ — endowed with many kinds of knowledge
  • Pitrārjita-dhana-tyāgī — gives up the money earned by his father; he gets it but does not enjoy it
  • Sabhāyāṁ mūkavad bhavet — in an assembly he is like a dumb man; not talkative or eloquent, especially in big groups

Many kinds of knowledge:

  • The 7th is the 4th from the 4th. The 4th lord there has argala on the 4th house.
  • He also has an aspect on the 4th — the 10th-house aspect, which is not a full aspect for most planets. "There is an argala and a partial aspect of the 4th lord on the 4th house. So it is conducive to the 4th house."
  • The 7th is the house of interactions, so there are interactions relating to knowledge.

Gives up father's money:

  • Take the 9th house (father) as lagna. The 4th is the 8th from the 9th, the 7th is the 11th from the 9th. So this is the 8th lord in the 11th, counted from the 9th.
  • The planet sitting in the father's house of gains is the 8th lord, who shows a fall and a big upset. He upsets and reduces the father's gains.
  • Inheritance in general (not only from the father) is the 8th house. Counted from the 8th, the 4th lord is the 9th lord placed in the 12th.
  • As 9th lord from the 8th he gives bhāgya in inheritance — the native may suddenly be given a lot of money. Placed in the 12th from the 8th, he lets it go. "Somebody gives him a few million dollars. But he says, okay, let me spend it on this temple." He may also simply not want to inherit.

Dumb in an assembly:

  • Students suggested the 5th house (following). The teacher: communication and oratory are the 3rd house, speech is the 2nd.
  • Counted from the 3rd, the 4th lord is the 2nd lord placed in the 5th. In the 5th from the 3rd he has argala on the 3rd, so he decides the communication. But as 2nd lord from the 3rd he is a māraka for it.
  • "As far as the house of communications is concerned, he is a māraka. So he may kill the communication skills of the person."
  • Parāśara chose one example. The lesson of the phrase is to read the 4th lord as māraka of the 3rd house. It could be hearing (also a 3rd-house matter). He can also be bad for the brother — trouble to the brother, even the brother's death.

The teacher does not work out A4 for this placement.

4th Lord in 8th House

Verse: sukheśe randhra-bhāvasthe gṛhādi-sukha-varjitaḥ; pitroḥ sukhaṁ bhaved alpaṁ; jātaḥ klība-samo bhavet

Results:

  • Gṛhādi-sukha-varjitaḥ — devoid of comforts such as a good house
  • Pitroḥ sukhaṁ bhaved alpam — very little happiness from the father
  • Klība-samo bhavet — like a eunuch. Santhanam translates "neuter". The word also means someone useless, without abilities, unable to stand up to anybody.

No household comforts:

  • The lord who is supposed to give comfort is in a dusthāna.
  • A4 falls in the 12th house. A4 shows the physical comforts — house, vehicles.

"If any Arudha is in the 12th house, the person may be devoid of that particular thing. But of course, it is also possible that he will have nice houses abroad, in a faraway place. Parasara is not giving all possibilities. He is just mentioning one possibility."

Little happiness from the father:

  • The 8th is the 12th from the 9th. The 4th lord is the 8th lord from the 9th, placed in the 12th from the 9th. That is a Viparīta Rāja Yoga — for the father.
  • The lesson: a Viparīta Rāja Yoga counted from a relative's house does not make the native happy in that relationship. It means the person shown by that house may have a sudden gain. (Same with the 7th: 6th lord from the 7th in the 12th from the 7th is the spouse's yoga, not happiness with the spouse.)
  • "When this planet's daśā comes, being a dusthāna lord from the 9th house, he will spoil your relationship with the father or not give much happiness with respect to the father. That's the bottom line."

Like a eunuch:

  • Sexual pleasure in bed is seen from the 12th, but the desire is rooted in the 7th. The 7th is the house of desire.
  • Counted from the 7th, the 4th lord is the 10th lord (the action relating to desire) placed in the 2nd — the māraka-sthāna.
  • So the person does not have strong desires, motivation or determination. It need not be sexual desire; it can be any desire.
  • The other possibility: the planet in the māraka-sthāna gives many desires and the person is unable to fulfil them.

4th Lord in 9th House

Verse: sukheśe bhāgya-bhāvasthe jātaḥ sarva-jana-priyaḥ; deva-bhakto guṇī mānī bhavet sarva-sukhānvitaḥ

A student guessed in advance that every result would be good: a kendra lord in a koṇa. The teacher agreed.

Results:

  • Sarva-jana-priyaḥ — liked by everybody
  • Deva-bhaktaḥ — a devotee of God
  • Guṇī — has good qualities
  • Mānī — principled
  • Sarva-sukhānvitaḥ — accompanied by all kinds of happiness

Liked by everybody:

  • Other people are the 7th house. Counted from the 7th, the 4th lord is the 10th lord (the karma of your relationships) placed in the 3rd.
  • Students suggested the 5th house (followers) and the 2nd / Hora Lagna. The teacher set both aside: Hora Lagna is the person's wealth and resources, "a totally different ball game".
  • The 5th is the house of emotions. The 5th from the 7th — the 11th house — shows how the people you interact with connect to you emotionally. That is why the 11th is seen for friends.
  • The 4th lord in the 9th has argala on the 11th house (the 9th is the 11th from the 11th). He gives other people a good emotional rapport with the native. People tend to like him.

Devotee of God:

  • The 9th is organised religion, devotion, the gods. The planet who shows being happy is there. "You are happy following religion. You follow your religion, do your rituals. You are happy with it."

Good qualities, principled:

  • The 4th house is the learning, knowledge and general qualities of the person. Its lord is in the 9th house of dharma.
  • So the person has good principles and is righteous. That is the sense of mānī — not just good qualities, a principled person.

All kinds of happiness:

  • The lord of the house of sukha is in a trine.
  • Counted from the 4th, he is in the 6th — an upachaya, which shows growth and accumulation. "If the lord of any house is in an upachaya from it, he will accumulate that thing." Several cars, several fridges, the latest TVs.
  • Being the 6th, he may have to work hard and stay busy to get them.
  • A4 falls in the 2nd house — the house of wealth and of the person's property. His cars and houses are his wealth. This too is conducive to accumulating.

D-30 Ṣaḍ-ripu — the 10th House as Indrasthāna and Field of Moha

This came up while explaining jitendriya for the 4th lord in the 10th. The teacher repeats a proposal from an earlier class and marks its status:

"This is just my deduction. This is not from any classic."

  • The six enemies are read from the visible half of the Triṁśāṁśa (D-30) — houses 7 to 12. The D-30 shows the evil person within us.
D-30 houseRipuWhat a weakness there shows
7thKāmaDesire
8thKrodhaAnger
9thLobhaGreed — normally dharma; here not following dharma, lack of a giving nature
10thMohaDelusion — false pride in achievements and status
11thMadaWantonness — going to any extreme to get what you want
12thMātsaryaJealousy — normally humility and giving up; here clinging, envy of what another has
  • A student asked whether moha is attachment, or pride. The teacher: it is being deluded by your achievements and status — false pride, false prestige. Mada is not false pride; mada is wantonness.

"When somebody says you are a great scientist, you feel great about it and you are in moha, you are in delusion. Somebody says you are a great astrologer, that causes moha. Any achievement causes moha."

"That is why the 10th house is the house of Indra. It is called the Indrasthana because it is your achievement. Indra stands for your achievements and any pride that comes on account of it. And the word indriyas is derived from Indra."

  • Hence the 4th lord in the 10th — a māraka of the 10th placed in the 10th — can show some overcoming of the delusion that comes from the 10th.

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