BPHS Ch.25 — 4th Lord in Houses 7–9: Not Talkative (Maraka of 3rd), A4 in 12th = No Comforts, A4 in 2nd = Accumulates & 10th House = Indrasthana/Moha
4L in 7H: many kinds of knowledge (7H=4th from 4H; Argala on 4H); gives up inherited wealth (4L = 12th lord from 8H of inheritance; fortune house from inheritance = gives up); not talkative in assembly (from 3H, 4L = Maraka of 3H; "can kill communication skills in assembly"). A4 calculation varies. 4L in 8H: no household comforts (4L = lord of comfort in dusthana); little happiness from father (dusthana lord from 9H); weak will/desires (Maraka of 7H = desire house = unable to fulfill desires). A4 in 12H: "if any Arudha is in 12H, person may be devoid of that thing — or may have it abroad (12H=foreign)." 4L in 9H: ALL positive. Liked by everyone (Argala on 11H = emotional rapport with people); devotee of God (happiness comes from devotion to 9H); capable/virtuous (Argala on lagna; aspects 5H); all kinds of happiness. A4 in 2H: "comforts are his wealth; accumulates property and vehicles like wealth." Key distinction: 4L in 9H = accumulates comforts (A4 in 2H); 4L in 10H = physically ENJOYS every comfort (A4 in lagna = "he drives his Mercedes every day, not locked in garage"). D30 Shadripu recap: 10H = Indrasthana = field of Moha (false pride from achievements). "Indra stands for achievement and any pride that comes from it. Indriyas (senses) are derived from Indra." 4L in 10H as Maraka of 10H = possible overcoming of Moha/false pride.
"10th house is Indrasthana — it is your achievement, your accomplishments, and that is the field of all your Moha. Somebody says you are a great scientist, you feel great about it and you are in Moha — in delusion. Any achievement causes Moha. That is why the 10th house is the house of Indra."
— P.V.R. Narasimha Rao
BPHS Chapter 25 — 4th Lord in Houses 7–12
4th Lord in 7th House
Sanskrit: Sukheche saptame jato bahu-vidyā samanvitaha; pitra-arjita-dhanāt-tyāgi; sabhāyam mukha-vad bhavet
Results:
- Bahu-vidyā samanvitaha — endowed with many kinds of knowledge
- Pitra-arjita-dhanāt-tyāgi — sacrifices/gives up money received from father; doesn't enjoy inherited wealth
- Sabhāyam mukha-vad bhavet — in an assembly of people, like a dumb person; not talkative in groups
Why the results make sense:
Many kinds of knowledge:
- 7th house = 4th from 4th → "4th lord is in the 4th from it; has Argala on 4th house"
- Also has 10th aspect (partial) on 4th house from 7th
- "Conducive to 4th house — there can be learning; interactions relating to knowledge"
Gives up father's money:
- Taking 9th house (father) as lagna: 4th lord in 7th = 8th lord in 11th from 9th
- "8th lord in the 11th house for father → can cause an upset to father's wealth, reduce father's gains"
- From 8th house (inheritance): 4th lord is in the 12th from 8th (9th from 8th, which is the fortune house from inheritance, but placed in losing/giving up)
- "The inheritance may be given up — he may let go an inheritance. He may get lot of money suddenly (9th lord from 8th = fortune for inheritance), but then spend it away on a temple, some cause, etc."
Dumb in assembly (not talkative):
- From 3rd house (communication in front of people): 4th lord is in 5th from 3rd (2nd lord from 3rd = Maraka of communication)
- "As far as the 3rd house of communication is concerned, he is a Maraka — he can kill the communication skills of the person"
- PVNR: "4th lord is basically a Maraka from the 3rd house. Parashara chose one example — not talkative in assembly. But it could also mean hearing issues, brother problems (Maraka of 3rd = Maraka for brother), etc."
Where A4 falls: Not specifically stated for 7th; implication from the 8th lord context = complex.
4th Lord in 8th House
Sanskrit: Gruha-ādi-sukhā-vadjitaha; pitro sukham bhavedalpam; jāta klibha-samo bhavet (sukheche-randha-vasthe)
Results:
- Gruha-ādi-sukhā-vadjitaha — devoid of comforts from house, vehicle, etc.
- Pitro sukham bhavedalpam — very little happiness from father
- Klibha-samo bhavet — like a eunuch (weak will, incapable of standing up; lacking strong desires/motivations)
Why the results make sense:
No household comforts:
- 4th lord in 8th = lord of comfort in a Dusthana → "the one supposed to give comfort is in a Dusthana"
- A4 (Arudha of 4th) falls in 12th house → "if any Arudha is in the 12th house, the person may be devoid of that particular thing"
- PVNR caution: "He may have nice houses abroad — that is also possible since 12th = foreign lands"
No happiness from father:
- From 9th house (father): 4th lord = 12th lord from 9th in 12th house → "but that is 8th lord in 12th from 9th = could give Viprit Rajayoga for father"
- Key principle: "For a Viprit Rajayoga with respect to a person's house, it doesn't mean the native is happy with that person — it means the other person may have a sudden gain, but this planet when its dasha comes gives loss of happiness relative to that house"
- "Being a Dusthana lord from 9th house, he will spoil the relationship with father or not give much happiness from father"
Like a eunuch (klibha):
- 7th house = house of desire; from 7th house: 4th lord in 8th = Maraka of 7th (8th = 2nd from 7th)
- "He is not really conducive to lot of desires — the person doesn't have strong desires or motivations"
- "It may also mean: unable to fulfill desires (Maraka energy on desire house)"
A4 in 12th — the key indicator for lack of comforts/properties.
4th Lord in 9th House
Sanskrit: Sukheche bhāgya-bhavaste jāta sarvajana-priya; devabhakto guṇī māṇī bhavet sarva sukha-anvitaha
Results (all positive — Kendra lord in Kona = auspicious):
- Sarvajana-priya — liked by everyone
- Devabhakto — devotee of God; religious
- Guṇī — virtuous/capable
- Māṇī — principled, honorable
- Sarva-sukha-anvitaha — all kinds of happiness
Why the results make sense:
Liked by everyone:
- 11th house = how people emotionally connect with you (5th from 7th = emotional reactions of people you interact with)
- 4th lord in 9th has Argala on 11th house → "can give good emotional rapport with other people"
- "People will tend to like you"
Devotee of God:
- 4th lord = planet of happiness; placed in 9th = "you are happy following religion, doing rituals — happiness comes from devotion"
Virtuous/capable:
- 4th lord in 9th → aspects 5th house (from 9th, 7th aspect = 3rd house; also has influence on 5th via Argala)
- PVNR clarification: "Guṇavān = capable person with abilities, not necessarily 'virtuous' as translated — because 5th house is abilities, not virtues (9th = virtues)"
- Also has Argala on Lagna (from 9th house) → "influence on the basic nature of the person"
All kinds of happiness:
- 4th lord (of sukha) in 9th = trine → "he will have happiness"
- From 4th house as lagna: 4th lord is in 6th house from 4th (9th = 6th from 4th) → Upachaya position → "accumulates lot of comforts; always engaged in activity but accumulates"
- "Where A4 falls? A4 is in the 2nd house" — 2nd house of wealth → "his cars, houses, etc. are his wealth; conducive to accumulating"
4th Lord in 10th House
Sanskrit: Sukheche karma-bhavaste; rāja-mānya narobhavet; rasāyanī; mahārṣṭho sukha-bhogī; jitendriyaha
Results:
- Rāja-mānya — respected by kings/government; royal honors
- Rasāyanī — chemist/scientist; someone dealing with chemicals or deep knowledge
- Mahārṣṭho — always in great happiness, very cheerful
- Sukha-bhogī — enjoyer of comforts (not just accumulator — actively ENJOYS them)
- Jitendriyaha — has conquered his senses; overcomes Moha (delusion)
Why the results make sense:
Royal respect:
- 4th lord in 10th → "the planet who shows how happy you are is in the house of status in society — you are happy with all the respect you get in society"
- "You are a respected member of society"
Chemist/Scientist:
- 4th house = liquids; 4th lord in 10th (career) → career dealing with liquids or chemicals
- PVNR's preferred interpretation: "4th house is knowledge; 4th lord in 10th = strong desire for knowledge; from 10th as lagna, 7th lord is in lagna (desire) — he has a strong desire for his work, attached to it"
- "Researcher, someone who is into sciences, who stays till 1 AM in his lab — this is more accurate than just 'chemist'"
Sukha-bhogī (enjoyer):
- Distinction: 4th lord in 9th = sukha-vitaha (has/accumulates comforts); 4th lord in 10th = sukha-bhogī (ENJOYS them)
- "He has nice Mercedes-Benz cars AND actually drives them every day" (not locked in a garage)
- A4 falls in Lagna → "all comforts are physically enjoyed by the person; he physically enjoys whatever he has"
Jitendriyaha (conquered senses):
- 10th house = field of Moha (false pride from achievements) — this is the Indrasthana
- 4th lord in 10th = Maraka of 10th (from 10th, 7th = 4th house, so 4th lord = 7th lord from 10th = Maraka of 10th)
- "When Maraka is placed in that house (lagna from 10th), it can give some overcoming of that particular thing"
- "He may show overcoming the delusion that comes from the 10th house — freedom from false pride of achievements"
- PVNR: "Not guaranteed — but there is a possibility, because this planet is showing Maraka of the 10th house's Moha"
D30 Shadripu recap:
- PVNR repeats: 10th house = Moha (false pride from accomplishments), 11th = Madha (wantonness), 12th = Matsarya (jealousy)
- "10th house is Indrasthana — Indra stands for achievement and any pride that comes from it. Indriyas (senses) are derived from the word Indra."
4th Lord in 11th House
Sanskrit: Sukheche lābhage jato gupta-roga-bhayānvitaha; udāro guṇavān dātā paropa-kāṇe-irataha
Results:
- Gupta-roga-bhayānvitaha — has fear of gupta-roga (hidden/secret diseases, STDs)
- Udāro — generous
- Guṇavān — virtuous/capable
- Dātā — giver
- Paropakāṇe-irataha — helpful to others; engaged in serving others
Why the results make sense:
Gupta-roga (hidden diseases):
- A4 falls in 6th house (4th lord in 11th → A4 in 6th) → "A4 in 6th house of disease — tangible pursuits of happiness have some link to the 6th house"
- "On account of his happiness, he gets into disease — one possibility: visiting a prostitute and getting STD"
- Also: from 4th house as lagna: 4th lord in 11th = 8th house from 4th → "breaks happiness, gives lack of peace"
- "The word gupta-roga means either deep hidden disease OR sexually transmitted disease — both are possibilities"
Not an enjoyer of his own comforts:
- Unlike 4th lord in 10th (A4 in lagna = physically enjoys comforts), here 4th lord in 11th = A4 in 6th
- "This person is not really an enjoyer of his own physical comforts — he is doing something else"
Generous, helpful, giver:
- 11th house = house of friends, others; 4th lord in 11th → "may be bothered about making other people emotionally well; compromises his own happiness"
- From 11th as lagna: 4th lord = 6th lord in lagna → "gaining through struggle for others, not by accumulating for himself"
- "He is not really someone who writes a cheque; he is someone who sacrifices his own gains so that other people are happy — that kind of generosity"
- Also: 4th lord aspects 5th house from 11th → "connection between quadrant (4th) and trine (5th) — good qualities of character"
- Has Argala on Lagna from 11th → "some influence on the basic nature of the person"
Guṇavān (capable):
- 4th lord aspects 5th (abilities) + Argala on lagna → "capable person; but may be using abilities to deprive himself of peace and create more work to help others"
4th Lord in 12th House
Sanskrit: Sukheche vyaya-bhavaste; gruhādhi-sukhā-vadjitaha; jāto durvyasanī mudha; sadā ālasya-samanvitaha
Results:
- Gruhādhi-sukhā-vadjitaha — devoid of happiness from house, vehicles, etc.
- Durvyasanī — has bad addictions/vices (cigarettes, alcohol, etc.)
- Mudha — fool; unlearned; lacks formal education
- Sadā ālasya-samanvitaha — well endowed with laziness; always lazy
Why the results make sense:
No household comforts:
- "Lord of 4th (happiness from house, etc.) in 12th house of loss — he may not have them"
- A4 falls in 8th house → "Arudha of any house in 8th house: that article may be cause of anxiety; may not have it, or have it but with lots of troubles"
- "He may have properties abroad" (12th = foreign lands)
- PVNR caution: "A4 in 8th also shows lots of change — may be always changing cars and houses; could be someone constantly upgrading to the next better model"
Bad addictions:
- 4th house = house of comforts and vyasanas (things that give happiness)
- 4th lord in 12th = "lord who shows happiness is in a Dusthana → may resort to hidden things or normally rejected things to get pleasure"
- Also A4 in 8th → can show sudden pleasures, unstable pleasures
Fool/Unlearned:
- 4th house = learning and education
- 4th lord in 12th (loss) → "lord of knowledge goes into house of loss — deprived of formal education"
- A4 in 8th → "breaks in knowledge"
- "Not a fool in the worldly-wise sense — he may be smart with people; but unlearned; lacks formal schooling"
Laziness:
- From 3rd house (initiative): 4th lord in 12th = 10th house from 3rd (the Indrasthana of initiative)
- "Who is in that 10th house from 3rd? The Maraka of the 3rd house (12th = 10th from 3rd, and 4th lord = 2nd from 3rd = Maraka of 3rd)"
- "The one who wants to kill your initiative is told: implement this initiative. He may or may not — depends on relationship with 3rd lord"
- "Not somebody endowed with great initiative; may be a procrastinator"
A4 Summary:
| 4th Lord in | A4 Falls in | Interpretation |
|---|---|---|
| 7th | Complex (varies) | — |
| 8th | 12th house | Devoid of comforts; or comforts abroad |
| 9th | 2nd house | Comforts are his wealth; accumulates |
| 10th | Lagna (1st) | Physically enjoys every comfort he has |
| 11th | 6th house | Comforts tied to disease/service/struggle |
| 12th | 8th house | Anxiety about comforts; breaks, changes, losses |
