D4 (Chaturthamsa) = Primary Bhagya Chart (Not D9), Natural Years of Planets (Saturn=7/19, Mercury=36, Rahu=42-44) & Karaka Bhava Nashaya Controversy
The principles the teacher states while reading the 9th house verses. For Bhāgya the chart to see is the Chaturthamsa (D4): Parāśara named it when he defined the divisional charts, and fortune is measured by house, land and property; D2 is assets and wealth, navāṁśa is for the spouse. The 9th from Moon joins the 9th from lagna and from Sun as a reference for father: it shows the native's thoughts and emotions about father, so Saturn there brings sadness about father in Saturn’s periods. The odd ages in Parāśara’s verses may come from natural years of planets — Saturn 7 and 19, Rahu 16 and 18, Mercury 36, Rahu and Ketu 42–44 — but the list handed down is incomplete and the teacher says so. Kāraka bhāva nāśa is set aside as controversial when Sun sits in the 5th.
Key principle
When he defined all the charts at the beginning, he mentioned that D4 shows the bhagya, the fortune of the native. Basically, the house and the land and the property, those are the measures of your fortune.
Key Principles from This Lesson
D4 (Chaturthamsa) as the Bhagya Chart
A student asks which chart to see for the fortune verses and suggests navāṁśa. The teacher: navāṁśa is for kalatra. For Bhāgya Parāśara named the Chaturthamsa.
"When he defined all the charts at the beginning, he mentioned that D4 shows the bhagya, the fortune of the native. Basically, the house and the land and the property, those are the measures of your fortune. Fortune comes because of your dharma, but it comes in the form of land or properties."
"D2 is your assets, your wealth. It is not really bhagya."
| Chart | What It Shows |
|---|---|
| D4 (Chaturthamsa) | Bhāgya — fortune, measured by house, land and property |
| D2 (Hora) | Assets, wealth |
| D9 (Navamsa) | Kalatra — spouse |
- Wealth is also relevant to fortune, so Hora can be looked at too — "but mainly Chaturthamsa".
9th from Moon for Father Analysis
Rule: Father is seen from the 9th from lagna and the 9th from Sun (Sun is the kāraka). Verse 18 shows the 9th from Moon also has a role.
What the 9th from Moon shows: the thoughts and emotions of the native relating to father (and fortune, and guru). Moon is the kāraka of mind, so every house can be read from Moon.
- Saturn in the 9th from Moon → the native has sad thoughts with respect to father when Saturn's daśā, antardaśā or natural years come.
- When predicting the father's death, the native becoming sad about father is part of the event. That is why the 9th from Moon matters.
Natural Years of Planets (Naisargika Daśā hints)
| Planet | Years named in class | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Rahu | 16, 18 (verse 17) | "May be important years with respect to Rahu" |
| Saturn | 7, 19 (verse 18) | Saturn is planet number 7; the numbers may belong to Saturn or to Rahu |
| Mercury | 36 | Natural year of Mercury; "could even be earlier, 24" |
| Rahu and Ketu | 42, 43, 44 | The early 40s are Rahu's |
"We have some natural years that are taught by Sanjay ji. But by no means the list we have is complete. During various years in the person's life, there may be certain planets that may be dominant, and there may be some lost knowledge, and all these numbers may be coming from that knowledge."
- For most of the ages in the father verses (1, 3, 16, 2, 12, 5, 31, 40, 50…) the teacher says plainly that he does not know the reason.
- The working rule: the natural year of the planet afflicting the kāraka should be watched, along with his daśā and antardaśā.
Kāraka Bhāva Nāśa Set Aside
In verse 17 Sun is in the 5th, the 9th from the 9th. The teacher does not treat that placement as bad for father on kāraka bhāva nāśa grounds:
"So all those Karaka Bhava Nasaya, all those don't apply. Anyway, those are controversial."
Sun in the 5th is bad in that verse only because Rahu aspects him.
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